Marie Marguerite DE THIENNES (ID #I20844)
(female)Family 1 : César DE TREY (b. 1678, d. 1726)
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In the longer version of the the testament of Aymon de Torculari, there is a bequest to Stephanus, father of Aymon. There is also a shorter version that makes the same bequest to Stephanus, brother of Aymon. In the first version, the rest of the passage is found to be grammatically defective, referring to plural brothers when only one (Johannes) is named. The shorter version is grammatically correct, and we conclude that Stephanus is properly the brother, and not the father, of Aymon. A Johannes de Torculari is mentioned at Payerne in 1470, conceivably the father of Aymon, Stephanus, and Johannes.
The surname rendered in Latin as de Torculari has two French translations, du Pressoir and Dutruict (or Dutruyl, Dutreuil, etc., based on a different form of the same word in the patois). This causes some problems! When Latin documents are indexed by the local archives, they are usually indexed and abstracted with the French names rather than the Latin names. Some archivists have converted de Torculari into du Pressoir, others into Dutruict. It is necessary to check for all three versions of the surname to be sure of finding all the references! A further complication was introduced, it seems, by the historian Alexandre Daguet, who opined in 1896 that he was inclined to translate de Torculari as De Treytorrens, on the grounds that the de Praroman manuscripts, which contain several letters relating to the Falck family and their relations, contained a letter from Rome from Guillaume de Treytorrens to his "cousin" Peter Falck. Daguet was in error on this point; the records of the notaries make it clear that de Torculari is Dutruict, and the relationship of Falck to the de Treytorrens family has not yet been discovered. But the suggestion was probably what led other historians to repeat the error without comment. Daguet's colleague Father Jean Gremaud suggested the correction "Du Treuil" in the next issue of the Anzeiger (3:398, 1881), but perhaps Zimmermann did not notice it.
Based on a different tradition, the name de Torculari can also be gallicized as de Torculier, on the grounds that authentic French names such as Grenier, Brasier, etc., had been latinized as Greneri, Braseri, etc. So far, this form of "reverse onomastic engineering" has only been found in the inventory of the de Blonay papers (ACV PP 637), where there are two citations for "de Torculier" in documents dating from the 14th Century around Maxilly.
A number of citations relating to de Torculari (whether translated as Dutruict or otherwise) are found in the records of Geneva in the 15th and 16th Centuries. Almost without exception, they pertain to a family from the area around Perroy. The records discovered so far are not sufficient to reconstruct the history of that family. Among the officials of the cathedral at Lausanne, there is mention of a Franciscus de Torculari from St. Prex, active about the middle of the 15th Century.
There is some evidence to suggest that the family from St.Paul-en-Chablais has used the spelling Dutruel in modern times (at least as early as the middle of the 19th Century). There are still some Dutruel at St. Paul.
_Nicolas (Nicod) DE TREY _+
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_Jacob DE TREY ______|
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| |_Bernardine REGNAULD _____+
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_Guillaume DE TREY __|
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| | _Vuillieme JOCCET ________+
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| |_Christine JOCCET ___|
| (.... - 1575) m 1549|
| |_Antheine TRACLEY ________+
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|--Abraham DE TREY
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|_Sara SAVARY ________|
m 1590 |
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No. 37 in the de Trey genealogy. He was affliced with "débliité de corps" on 10 aug 1595, when his wife and her sister exchanged property with Claude Banquettaz (Samuel Pierre Banquettaz, notary, the document inserted after folio 213 in the first register of notary Salomon de Trey).
_Oddet DE TREY _______
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_Jean DE TREY ________|
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| |_Marguerite BERTIN ___+
| (.... - 1506) m 1483
_Jean DE TREY ________|
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| | _Jean REGNAULD _______
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| |_Antoinette REGNAULD _|
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| |_Katherine du BULLOZ _+
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|--Abraham DE TREY
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|_Jeanne D'ENGLISBERG _|
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Existence of this child is revealed by baptism of his illigitimate child, and denial of the child's paternity by Jacob de Trey in the absence of his son. Marginalia seem to indicate that paternity was later attributed to Uriel Jomini. The baptism of Abraham's alleged son occurred in 1621 at Payerne, the mother was Claudinaz Martin of Grandson.
_Jean DE TREY ________+
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_Jean DE TREY ________|
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| |_Antoinette REGNAULD _+
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_Jacob DE TREY ______|
| (1563 - 1655) m 1598|
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| |_Jeanne D'ENGLISBERG _|
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|--Abraham DE TREY
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| _Jean ROUGE __________+
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| _François ROUGE ______|
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| | |_Jenon MÉGOZ _________+
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|_Jeanne ROUGE _______|
m 1598 |
| _Aymé BERTHOD ________
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|_Anne BERTHOD ________|
(.... - 1609) m 1574 |
|_Catherine PIGNOLET __+
(1525 - 1572) m 1550
He is No. 76 in the de Trey genealogy.
_Daniel DE TREY _____+
| (1648 - 1710) m 1682
_Samuel DE TREY _____|
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| |_Anne Marie DE PURY _
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_Charles François DE TREY _|
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|--Abraham Isaac DE TREY
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|_Salomé MARCUARD __________|
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_Jean DE TREY ________+
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_Jean DE TREY ________|
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| |_Antoinette REGNAULD _+
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_Jacob DE TREY ______|
| (1563 - 1655) m 1598|
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| |_Jeanne D'ENGLISBERG _|
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|--Anna DE TREY
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| _Jean ROUGE __________+
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| _François ROUGE ______|
| | (1550 - 1617) m 1574 |
| | |_Jenon MÉGOZ _________+
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|_Jeanne ROUGE _______|
m 1598 |
| _Aymé BERTHOD ________
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|_Anne BERTHOD ________|
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|_Catherine PIGNOLET __+
(1525 - 1572) m 1550
_Nicolas (Nicod) DE TREY _+
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_Jacob DE TREY ______|
| (.... - 1574) m 1549|
| |_Bernardine REGNAULD _____+
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_Guillaume DE TREY __|
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| | _Vuillieme JOCCET ________+
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| |_Antheine TRACLEY ________+
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|--Anne DE TREY
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_Oddet DE TREY _______
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_Nicolas (Nicod) DE TREY _|
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| |_Marguerite BERTIN ___+
| (.... - 1506) m 1483
_François DE TREY ___|
| (.... - 1588) m 1582|
| | _Jean REGNAULD _______
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| |_Bernardine REGNAULD _____|
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| |_Katherine du BULLOZ _+
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| _Pierre JOCCET ___________|
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|_Marguerite JOCCET __|
(.... - 1601) m 1582|
| _Jean Amey GACHET ____+
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|_Anne GACHET _____________|
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|_Marguerite VALLIER __+
(1505 - 1560) m 1540
Protestant minister.