_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Abigail WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--Abigail WATERS | (1683 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--Elizabeth WATERS | | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Elizabeth WATERS | (1642 - 1662) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--Elizabeth WATERS | (1677 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Ezekiel WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Hannah WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
The marriage date suggests that James was one of the children born in Salem, and not in England.
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--James WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
Information from the Ironmongers' Guild records (Guildhall Library, London) and parish registers published by Jeanne Waters Strong, 1980, "One Waters Family." First definite record concerns his allegiance to the guild: "Memorandum - That I, James Waters, apprentice unto William Burner ironmonger, due promise by my faith & trothe to be obedient unto the masters and wardens of the Ironmongers and their successors duringe my life. In witness hereunto
I sett my hand the 26th day of Aprill 1586. - by me James Waters." Quite likely this is the James Waters who was baptized 29 aug 1568 at St. Giles Cripplegate, London, son of Henry Waters. By 1592, he is referred to as "late apprentice of William Burner." He is mentioned in guild records and in records of St. Botolphe without Aldgate until his death in 1617. He was appointed churchwarden 04 apr 1616. It is possible he was the brother of one Richard Waters, draper, but Waters families are too numerous in that area to be untangled with any certainty. James was first taxed at East Smithfield, London, in a list of 24 sep 1600. He was not on the list of 1598.
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--John WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--John WATERS | | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--John WATERS | (1664 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--John WATERS | (1665 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--Judith WATERS | | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Martha WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Mary WATERS | | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--Mary WATERS | | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--Nathaniel WATERS | (1671 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--Phebe WATERS | | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______
Evidence on her marriages is contradictory. Jeanne Waters Strong (1980) has Phebe surviving Thomas West any marrying John Stephens. However, H. F. Waters (1897) has Thomas West surviving and marrying Marry Tennye 1674.
_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | |_____________________ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | | _George MANNING _____+ | | | (.... - 1583) m 1543 | |_Phebe MANNING ______| | (1572 - 1637) | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____+ | m 1543 | |--Phebe WATERS | (.... - 1674) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Joyce _____ ________| (.... - 1676) | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--Richard WATERS | (1664 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
_James WATERS _______ | _Richard WATERS _____| | (.... - 1676) | | |_Phebe MANNING ______+ | (1572 - 1637) _John WATERS ________| | m 1663 | | | _____________________ | | | | |_Joyce _____ ________| | (.... - 1676) | | |_____________________ | | |--Richard WATERS | (1669 - ....) | _____________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | |_____________________ | | |_Sara TOMPKINS ______| m 1663 | | _____________________ | | |_____________________| | |_____________________
Admitted to the Ironmongers' Guild 26 apr 1626, his residence at that time listed as East Smithfield. In the Ironmongers' Cash Book, payments are noted for 1625-1636, with his name crossed off the roster in that year. From 1637 to 1651, he is listed as owing money, perhaps from a loan by the guild. At that time, he was in Salem, MA, where he joined the First Church in 1637, and his wife in 1641. His wife survived until at least 1687, when she deeded
her half interest in a house, land, brew house, and well to her son Ezekiel, thus giving him a 100% stake in the property.
In the course of proceedings on the estate of William Plasse, Richard Waters states he is the son-in-law of Plasse. This suggested to some that his wife Joyce or Rejoice must have been the daughter of Plasse, and from this has sprung the general belief noted by Strong and others that Richard married Rejoice Plasse in England. However, it is commonplace in records of the 17th Century for a step-son to be called son-in-law. The term even applies to the husband of a step-daughter. There seems to be no other evidence for the attribution of Joyce to the Plasse family, and this notion is here rejected. It would be interesting to review records of St. Botolph Aldgate to see if a Joyce of the right age can be located in another family. It would not be surprising if she were the daughter of another member of the Ironmongers' Guild.
There are also many uncertainties about the children of Richard Waters. At least one has been advanced who is not mentioned in his will (Sara), and the baptisms of others have not been located. Nevertheless, it is very likely that 4 or 5 children were born before the family left England. In 1637, the records of Salem, MA grant to Mr. Waters 3/4 acre to support his family of 5. Among these must be William, the eldest known child.
_____________________ | _____________________| | | | |_____________________ | _James WATERS _______| | | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________| | | | |_____________________ | | |--Richard WATERS | (.... - 1676) | _John MANNING _______+ | | | _George MANNING _____| | | (.... - 1583) m 1543| | | |_Agnes PETLEY _______+ | | |_Phebe MANNING ______| (1572 - 1637) | | _Richard WALLYS _____+ | | |_Johanna WALLYS _____| m 1543 | |______ BURTON _______